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“Wait, Is it a romantic date?” Podcast Episode 206: star Crushes | Autostraddle

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It had been my brother’s consider find the film at Blockbuster and she’d opted for

A Walk to Remember

. “Sorry. This might be a lady film,” my mother warned. Whenever we had gotten home and saw it as a family group, i did not show my rips. Or my personal need. I didn’t confess that We liked the film and, more importantly, appreciated top honors. The entire year had been 2002 and between Mandy Moore inside motion picture and Avril Lavigne publishing the woman debut record album, I would found the 2 forms of star crushes that could haunt with the rest of my youth.

Star crushes indicate a lot more to queer people than they actually do to straight men and women. They may be all of our basic expressions of queer need or all of our basic expressions of sex envy. They can be a safe destination to try cravings that aren’t prepared the real-world.

That is why this week we are chatting with copywriter and podcaster Jordan Crucchiola everything about celeb crushes. We speak about just how celebrity thirsting feels comprehensive to Jordan as a panromantic grey asexual individual. We explore how I believe nearly all of my personal star crushes are sort of attainable. And, however, we mention the famous earlier women on Christina’s drinking water package.

But initially! Christina quizzes myself on a subject i am aware small about — lesbian love novels


PROGRAM NOTES

+ the true romance novels referenced in our online game happened to be:

The X Element

,

Splitting Character

,

Resort Queens

,

Payback’s a Witch

, and

The Brutal Facts

.

+ My reference for just two fans revealing a wall:


+ Christina’s reference for two lovers sharing a wall:


+ listed here are every one of Jordan Crucchiola’s podcasts:

An Easy Podcast

The Entire Movie Podcast

Aughtsterion

Tragedy Ladies

Feeling Caught

+ My popular

Euphoria

recaps
.

+ If at all like me, you’ve got no clue just who Lindsay Shookus is actually,
discover a timeline
of the woman union with Mr. Jennifer Lopez.

+ This is extremely fearless of me personally, because I do not keep in mind every thing I had written on my Tumblr, but here’s a link to
my Nicole Kidman job
.

+

The

Angelina Jolie Moving Stone cover
.

+ a note to view

P-Valley

and also to study
Natalie’s insurance
.



EPISODE


Jordan:

Literally each and every time Jennifer Connelly’s face popped on display screen, every single time i recently went, “Oh, Jesus.”


Christina:

(laughs)


Drew:

(laughs)


Jordan:

Like, audibly. I, like, gasped and “Oh, Jesus,” like every fucking time.

[theme tune plays]


Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina:

And I Also’m Christina.


Drew:

And this is Wait, So Is This A Romantic Date?.


Christina:

You understand, Wait, Is it a night out together? is actually an Autostraddle podcast whereby I constantly forget about just who claims what, regardless of what very long we’ve recorded. Uh, I think which is actually truly gorgeous. And my headphones just fell quickly my personal head. Very.


Drew:

So a very good s—, powerful start.


Christina:

A stronger start. But primarily, its a podcast about online dating and, like, learning what relationship is assuming we realize how to do so, like we determine if I can hold my very own earphones back at my really mind.


Drew:

That is great. Um, i’m Drew Gregory. I am (laughs) I am, uh… Or do you actually… But do you wish me to dwell on that longer? I’m getting seems.


Christina:

No, I’m merely dwelling…


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

…on my self.


Drew:

Great.


Christina:

Exciting if you chat, In my opinion. (laughs)


Drew:

Correct. Um, uh, i’m Drew Gregory. I’m a filmmaker and a writer for Autostraddle. I am a queer trans lady besides. Those are identification labels that We have. Christina?


Christina:

Yes, positively. I Am Christina Tucker. I will be also a writer at Autostraddle and a podcaster. And honestly, this month I actually just already been like a lady about community. I really just already been like—


Drew:

Mm.


Christina:

—woman at large, largely in several—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—beaches, uh, for the Jersey Shore.


Drew:

You truly have.


Christina:

But still feeling very in particular and unique such that today I demonstrably believe tired by.


Drew:

Certain.


Christina:

I am Ebony and gay, and therefore stones for me personally.


Drew:

I enjoy that. (laughs)


Christina:

Cool. I am not sure exactly why i am thus odd nowadays. We, like, have no idea just who i’m. What are you doing?


Drew:

It is ok. We’re going to keep goin’.


Christina:

What I have, however, Drew, is actually a game title.


Drew:

Mm-hmm. Give Thanks To God.


Christina:

And This Also game I’m testing your understanding of anything I know that you do not have a lot of understanding of, which will be—


Drew:

Oh God.


Christina:

–fun. Um, its a… it’s labeled as… I do not even have a reputation for this. We possibly should’ve thought of a name. But basically, I Will present three lesbian romance games, and you are going—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—to must tell me exactly what are the genuine types regarding the three.


Drew:

Okay.


Christina:

Two I have created, one is real. And you’re going to have to select the real one and let me know what you think it is more about.


Drew:

Great. Okay.


Christina:

Are you ready?


Drew:

I will be. What a great game.


Christina:

Okay.


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

Here we go. One three.

The X Element

,

The It Factor

, and

The Truth people

.


Drew:

Huh. It’s funny, ’cause you’ll think

The X Element

would really be

The X Factor

with

The It Factor

, but—


Christina:

Positive.


Drew:

We want to say… i recently… Oh, I hope I am not inadvertently insulting you, but I feel like

The X Ingredient

will be the clunkiest, and so you wouldn’t have come with that. It should be genuine.


Christina:

You might be proper. (laughs)


Drew:

Yes.


Christina:

(laughs)


Drew:

Wow, I Am thus glad.


Christina:

What do you would imagine

The X Element

is approximately?


Drew:

Um, i believe really about two lesbians who will be exes and finish for a passing fancy truth cooking show that’s type of like

Chopped

, but, like, approximately

Chopped

and

Great British Baking Show

. Like, it goes on for some time it has actually type of the current weather of

Chopped

. Um, and they’re exes also it… It is kind of want a… I don’t know if this would depend as an enemies to enthusiasts simply because they had been lovers at one-point, but it is like an exes to straight back together.


Christina:

I love that. In addition love that by asking you to tell myself what you believe these books are about, I just produced you create relationship plots.


Drew:

I really like it.


Christina:

That is really fun. Uh, unfortuitously

The X Ingredient

is clearly, uh, about an assistant who sleeps together with her employer. As soon as I began reading it last week regarding coastline, we said, “this is certainly positively a

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic that features converted into a genuine publication.” As soon as I show we see the

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic, we sure have actually. In order for’s a journey.


Drew:

Wait, but just why is it labeled as

The X Element

?


Christina:

Really, inside the original fanfic, the X ingredient was actually… there was clearly some form of reason that Miranda had all of the woman assistants, uh, consume this lady out to orgasm. Um.


Drew:

Wow.


Christina:

Can’t really bear in mind precisely what the, the story, the backstory ,was on that, um, but in the brand new one, contained in this actual circulated version I should say, uh, the X component I guess is actually, I don’t know, merely, like, that the woman assistant’s hot and she actually is want, “Oh, Im gay today and I wanna have sex along with her.” Like, I don’t know. The X component has been hot.


Drew:

Good enough for me. Okay.


Christina:

There you are going.


Drew:

Round two.


Christina:

Round two.

Cracked Hearts Club

…


Drew:

Uh-huh.


Christina:

…

Splitting Character

,

Going for Broke

.


Drew:

Ooh, all those seem like they may be genuine. I must say I want it to be

Breaking Personality

, but i do believe

Reduced Hearts Club

is actually real.


Christina:

Sadly,

Broken Hearts Club

is not genuine. And happy for you,

Busting Character

is actually genuine.


Drew:

Oh my God, i ought to’ve simply eliminated with my instinct.


Christina:

Choose your own abdomen, girl.


Drew:


Breaking Personality

. Okay, it’s about a sort of like the female Daniel Day-Lewis, like a female star just who takes her technique acting very honestly, and she develops a relationship together with her co-star. But the woman co-star, it really is ambiguous for both her co-star and for the actor when the co-star is in love together with her or perhaps in love together with her figure. And hijinks ensue.


Christina:

Seriously, that is not remote from the genuine storyline of

Splitting Character

, that will be in fact about two stars, a person who is actually, uh, been labeled as a bitch but is certainly not, but is only being, uh, badmouthed by the woman showrunner because she actually is on like a

Grey’s Structure

sort medical program—


Drew:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.


Christina:

—that features really gone off the rails. The woman characteris the bitch.


Drew:

Mm-hmm.


Christina:

And, uh, the woman new co-star Summer — yes it’s true, the woman name is Summer — is extremely pleasant and wonderful. And because of extremely bonkers land factors, they need to have a fake union. Nonetheless’re both homosexual so…


Drew:

So absolutely nothing happens. They don’t establish any thoughts.

this bbw encounters site


Christina:

Yeah, so they cannot… Yeah, absolutely nothing.


Drew:

They never ever attach. No.


Christina:

Nothing happens. They never ever discuss it in addition they do not have intercourse.


Drew:

Mm-hmm.


Christina:

Yep, that is just what takes place.


Drew:

Occasionally which is the way it goes.


Christina:

Fine, your following three.

Resort Queens

,

News Moguls

, or

Restaurant Monarchs

.


Drew:

Okay, I Am gonna follow my instinct and opt for one that I want to end up being real—


Christina:

Okay.


Drew:

—and hope that that is genuine.

Hotel Queens

.


Christina:


Hotel Queens

is actually genuine.


Drew:

Wow, I Am eliminating it. (laughs)


Christina:

You are eliminating this. For a person who will perhaps not review loads of lesbian love, uh, its within blood, hottie.


Drew:

Okay, i’ll now state the story that I’m hoping it is, though I’m convinced based on my knowledge of publishing market this is simply not possible. But I want it to be about two participants on a show comparable to, like,

Drag Race

’cause you aren’t truly designed to, similar, be in one another’s spaces but, you understand, they stay in a lodge throughout the entire filming of this tv series. So they really develop, like, a sort of dramatic affair that for quite some time cannot be consummated, however their spaces are alongside both so they, like, knock on the wall structure among all of them right after which if they are filming, absolutely just like most of the stress and it’s really… And yeah, that is, that is what Needs

Resort Queens

to-be pertaining to.


Christina:

That appears rather hot. Um, that is not exactly what

Hotel Queens

is mostly about. It is simply about a lady exactly who operates resorts and, uh, an other woman just who runs a competing hotel.


Drew:

Sure, sure.


Christina:

Which works best for a contending hotel chain and so they, uh—


Drew:

Sure, sure, sure.


Christina:

—quite literally are resort queens.


Drew:

Sure, sure.


Christina:

But I favor that fuel. I enjoy the knocking on the… extremely, uh,

bump 3 x throughout the ceiling if you’d like myself

energy, that I like.


Drew:

I happened to be referencing

Sparkling Superstar

, and I also love our, I like all of our various social things, you know.


Christina:

I love the brains.


Drew:

Yeah.


Christina:

I believe brains are very stunning.


Drew:

Yeah.


Christina:

All right,

Paid in Paradise

.


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:


The Repayment Plan

.


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

.


Drew:

Oh,

Payback’s a Witch

noises fun. I am going with

Payback’s a Witch

.


Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

. And it is enjoyable ’cause really an actual book.


Drew:

Cool.


Christina:

Let me know what you think

Payback’s a Witch

is about.


Drew:

Okay, I got it.


Christina:

Okay.


Drew:

So a new gay witch is actually having difficulties to produce rent in early months of pandemic.


Christina:

(laughs)


Drew:

While the landlord is a lot like, “No, you have to still offer money.” And she is like, “But have a look, like, all these… you realize, like, it’s not possible to evict me,” and all of these various things and like, “you ought to give myself some slack,” and “its a pandemic.” As well as the property manager’s love, “No, i am a landlord. I dislike you.”

And therefore then she is like… She goes, “No, I’m a witch,” and so then she starts tormenting the property manager. Really Love story just isn’t because of the landlord, not an enemies-to-lovers scenario because—


Christina:

‘Cause landlords tend to be poor. Yes. (laughs)


Drew:

But in fact she realizes that the woman next-door neighbor normally a witch and in addition a lesbian, so they torment the property owner together and fall in really love in the process. It kind of features like a Roald Dahl power, like

The Twits

. Or

Splendid Mr. Fox

. Like, there is not really, like… there is not plenty of conflict the moment the initial conflict takes place. Like, the two of them merely are like, “we are both witches. We’re gonna torment this person which deserves to be tormented.” Then they’ve got gender.


Christina:

That’s in fact truly attractive. Uh,

Payback’s a Witch

is focused on, alternatively, a woman who is, you guessed it, a witch whom returns to the woman hometown where it is the sole location that she will carry out magic—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—because there is like a miracle lake. She has been without abilities.


Drew:

Fun. Ooh.


Christina:

Um, and she fulfills a, a female she had a crush in high-school. Uh, there’s like a whole extended, like, secret world-building thing with all the area additionally the people that run the city. They get together. It is rather sweet. Fun book,

Payback’s a Witch

.


Drew:

Really, regarding the types up until now, this is the any I would personally most wanna study.


Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

is very enjoyable. Uh, there was a follow up to that guide, however it is regrettably about right individuals. Therefore.


Drew:

Weird.


Christina:

You win some, you drop some. Fine, listed here is the final any.

Trustworthiness and Second Chances

,

Whenever Reality Meets Fiction

—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—or

The Brutal Truth

.


Drew:

Ooh. I am gonna pick

Whenever Truth Touches Fiction

.


Christina:

Mm, that’s unfortuitously from my personal brain by yourself. Uh,

The Brutal Reality

, nonetheless…


Drew:

The good news is that

The Brutal Reality

and

Whenever Truth Suits Fiction

, I Believe both are a comparable thing which is—


Christina:

Yeah, they might end up being.


Drew:

—novel-length fanfiction of

The Day Program

and of Bradley Jackson along with her truth-telling. But I imagine with regards to ended up being released, for copyright laws factors they performed need certainly to alter some specifics. So the woman name’s not Bradley Jackson any longer, but it’s equally plotted.


Christina:

Which Can Be a pity because Bradley Jackson is actually leading one of the best personality brands actually ever place to paper, um, despite how—


Drew:

Positively.


Christina:

—ridiculous every thing about it is actually. But congratulations thereon Emmy nom, Reese.


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

(laughs)

The Brutal Facts

is all about a media mogul which takes over a having difficulties report and drops deeply in love with the criminal activity blogger, just who produces—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—at the evening. Uh, they have a tremendously sweet coming collectively. The news mogul is actually very mean and like two decades avove the age of this woman is. This really is amazing material.


Drew:

Yes.


Christina:

And I also will, because I worry so much for our listeners, obviously include website links to any or all of the real books in show notes.


Drew:

Incredible.


Christina:

And rest of them, they return into my personal head where they belong. In addition, creating titles of books… Like I am able to produce plots for a romance books the entire day. Titles is actually, like, really shockingly challenging.


Drew:

Yeah, you did really good.


Christina:

Thank you so much. I recently required that accompany.


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

Our very own very unique guest is regarded as my favorite visitors to thirst about stars with. Thus special visitor, why not introduce yourself so we can get into celebrity crush talk?


Jordan:

Uh, hello. Hi, Christina. It is a— And Drew. Hello. We, I am Jordan Crucchiola. And in case you hear some of my personal podcasts, maybe you have begun using Simple Podcast which I performed with Christina. And as I stated as I logged to this cam, the last time we had been on a pod with each other ended up being once we happened to be interviewing Blake Lively.


Christina:

And, as I remember, texting feverishly, uh, off-mic—


Jordan:

Yeah.


Christina:

—about wow, Blake Livelyis only in just a little Zoom place.


Jordan:

(laughs)


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

There she is. She actually is had gotten so much tresses. What is actually taking place? She is talkin’ to all of us for way too long.


Jordan:

Opt for God, Blake. Thanks a lot.


Christina:

It actually was untamed occasions. Crazy occasions.


Jordan:

(laughs)


Drew:

Want to say a little bit more about who you really are?


Jordan:

Sure, sure. Um, we, I wish to say that Im somebody who really likes Drew Gregory’s everything I start thinking about becoming conclusive

Euphoria

recaps.


Christina:

(laughs)


Drew:

Wow. Thank you so much.


Jordan:

There clearly was specific one where, um… as the tv series can make me personally therefore acutely… Hunter Schafer is, uh, an angel from Jesus.


Christina:

Yeah.


Jordan:

As well as the show tends to make me personally acutely unpleasant in the solitary brain trust originator, executor, producer, movie director, journalist, gazes upon Hunter.


Christina:

Mm-hmm.


Drew:

Yeah.


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